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Posted Wednesday 9/19/18 at 10:06PM EDT
Chelsea Handler on Louis CK and Aziz Ansari's comeback attempts: "They have to address what happened"
"People want to talk about it,” the comedian tells The Huffington Post. “You can’t just ignore and throw it under the rug. You have to talk about what you’ve learned, where you’ve come from and where you are now.” She added: “I think that’s the issue everyone has with it and why it’s such a big deal. You can’t just come back and act like nothing happened ― you did a bad thing ― depending on which person you’re talking about. It’s about taking responsibility, ultimately.”
Posted Thursday 9/13/18 at 1:29PM EDT
Jerry Seinfeld on his pal Louis CK: “It’s his thing to figure out the path"
“I don’t know the path to take," Seinfeld told Variety during a charity benefit last night in New York City, when asked about his recent comeback attempt from his sexual misconduct scandal.
Posted Wednesday 9/12/18 at 1:11PM EDT
Norm Macdonald: The Tonight Show wanted me to apologize for my controversial #MeToo comments
Macdonald detailed to Howard Stern this morning how he ended up being dropped from last night's Tonight Show at the last minute following outrage over his interview with The Hollywood Reporter in which he portrayed Louis CK and Roseanne Barr as victims. According to TVLine, Macdonald said when he arrived at his dressing room, Tonight Show producers made it clear that Fallon would have to acknowledge his comments, and they urged him to apologize at the beginning of his appearance. Then Fallon himself stopped by and asked, “How should we play this?” Macdonald agreed to address the comments at the end of the interview. But Macdonald said Fallon's producers didn't like that idea, adding that they were "crying" over the idea of letting him appear on-air. “He was very broken up about it, he didn’t want this,” Macdonald said to Stern. “Jimmy said, ‘Come back whenever you want, but I think it will hurt the show tonight,'” Macdonald said, adding: “I said, ‘Jimmy, that’s the last thing I want to do, is hurt your show.” Macdonald said he understood where Fallon was coming from. “Part of the reason I love (Jimmy) is because he does nothing about the news," said Macdonald. "He’s just a song-and-dance man. He’s not a political comedian.” Macdonald, who apologized on Twitter for his comments after the cancelation, also explained to Stern that "I’m totally behind the #MeToo movement," adding that he wasn't saying what Roseanne and Louis CK have experienced "was way worse than what victims went through. What the victims went through is horrible.”
- The Tonight Show's cancelation is a reminder of how safe Fallon plays it: "Navigating complex issues presented by Macdonald’s dust-up — without fear of embarrassment — requires a host with intellectual heft, a broad sensibility and courage to confront. Jimmy Fallon has yet to prove he bears such qualities," says Colby Hall, adding: "As we saw last night, Mr. Fallon hides from the task of confronting meaningful topics moving the public discourse."
- Macdonald told Stern he was confused during his Hollywood Reporter interview because "I'm a dumb f*cking guy"
- Macdonald's "apology" was a bunch of words resembling an apology, but meant nothing at all
- Macdonald says The Comedy Cellar should give women traumatized by Louis CK's surprise standup $200 each: "I think they could get through the trauma if they were paid $200 and could buy some nice shoes."
Posted Tuesday 9/11/18 at 9:05PM EDT
Norm Macdonald apologizes for "minimizing the pain" of Louis CK and Roseanne Barr's victims
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
"Roseanne and Louis have both been very good friends of mine for many years," Macdonald tweeted on Tuesday evening, hours after his controversial #MeToo comments were published in The Hollywood Reporter. "They both made terrible mistakes and I would never defend their actions. If my words sounded like I was minimizing the pain that their victims feel to this day, I am deeply sorry." Macdonald said in The Hollywood Reporter interview promoting his new Netflix show, "well, Louis and Roseanne are the two people I know. And Roseanne was so broken up (after her show’s reboot was canceled) that I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that. But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn’t have to go through that." ALSO: Macdonald doesn't seem to realize that second chances are earned. UPDATE: The Tonight Show canceled Macdonald's appearance Tuesday, saying in a statement: “Out of sensitivity to our audience and in light of Norm Macdonald’s comments in the press today, The Tonight Show has decided to cancel his appearance on Tuesday’s telecast."
Posted Tuesday 9/11/18 at 12:52PM EDT
Norm Macdonald questions the #MeToo movement, reveals he had Louis CK phone Roseanne Barr after her firing
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Macdonald tells The Hollywood Reporter "I'm happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit," pointing to Chris Hardwick, whom he says, "I really thought got the blunt end of the stick there." Macdonald, who previously said murderers get more sympathy than Louis CK, says the lack of forgiveness in the #MeToo movement is a major flaw. "The model used to be admit wrongdoing, show complete contrition, and then we give you a second chance," he says. "Now it's admit wrongdoing and you're finished. And so the only way to survive is to deny, deny, deny. That's not healthy — that there is no forgiveness. I do think that at some point it will end with a completely innocent person of prominence sticking a gun in his head and ending it. That's my guess. I know a couple of people this has happened to." He also reveals that since he had Louis CK phone Roseanne Barr, whom he worked for on Roseanne, after she was fired for her racist tweet. "Roseanne was so broken up (after her firing) that I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that," says Macdonald. "But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that." What did Roseanne and Louis CK talk about? "They both said they had a good conversation and were just giving any advice you could give to each other," says Macdonald. "There would be no way for me to even understand that advice, because who has ever gone through such a thing? All their work in their entire life being wiped out in a single day, a moment."
Posted Monday 9/10/18 at 8:51PM EDT
Norm Macdonald thinks some murderers get more sympathy than Louis CK
Source: Page Six
“It’s weird that you can commit murder and go to prison and do your time and then everybody goes, ‘He’s done his time, he deserves to work, how dare you treat him as less than you just because he murdered a guy,’ because he did his penance for it. And yet the Twitter mob, there is no sentence for it,” Macdonald tells Forbes. “But I think we’re going to return to reason and realize you shouldn’t ban a person for life for doing something that you couldn’t even put him in prison for.”
Posted Monday 9/10/18 at 2:00PM EDT
Netflix execs are silent on a Louis CK comeback, but they address concerns over the lack of black female comedians and too many comedy specials
Source: The New York Times
The New York Times' comedy critic Jason Zinoman sat down with Lisa Nishimura, Netflix’s vice president of original documentary and comedy programming, and Robbie Praw, the director of original stand-up comedy. When he asked about the potential of Louis CK returning with a new standup special, Zinoman reported that they paused to reflect for a minute before a publicist said they wouldn't be able to answer. They also addressed concerns over the lack of black female comedians with Netflix specials in 2017 and 2018. When asked if Netflix has a responsibility to do better, Praw said: “I think we have a responsibility, but it’s also what our members want.” The next day, Praw emailed Zinoman saying that having so few black women standup specials has been a failure. Since their talk, Netflix has signed Tiffany Haddish and Wanda Sykes to do standup specials. As for whether Netflix is oversaturating the market by putting out too many standup specials, Praw said: “We would never look at musicians and say let’s put out 10 albums this year." ALSO: Netflix's silence about Louis CK's return is concerning.
Posted Sunday 9/09/18 at 12:19PM EDT
Sarah Silverman: My I Love You, America monologue helped one of Louis CK's daughters deal with his sexual misconduct scandal
Source: The Daily Beast
Silverman said Friday night "I can't be objective" when it comes to Louis CK's return to standup comedy because "Louis is my brother, we grew up together, I’ve known him since I was 19." As part of a Paley Center for Media discussion, Silverman also said her monologue on Louis CK from last November's I Love You, America in which she asked “Can you love someone who did bad things?” helped CK's daughter. "I will say—and I hope this is OK to say—that after I did that (monologue), he called me. And he said it really helped one of his daughters to understand," said Silverman. "She showed it to him and she said, I can love you even though you did bad things. And we cried. It was a small silver lining in a very bleak story."
Posted Thursday 9/06/18 at 10:03PM EDT
Comedy Cellar owner is now "very upset" with Louis CK "because my life has been substantially affected and his life has not"
“I’m very upset with him because my life has been substantially affected and his life has not, and I’m not sure he’s aware of it. I’m not sure that he gave it sufficient thought,” Noam Dworman told The Huffington Post more than a week after CK's surprise performance. “On the other hand, I think he’s been disconnected from the world and didn’t realize. I am upset.” Referring to the mistreatment of women, Dworman said: “We were the place that never did that stuff ... And now I’m the national symbol of it. The very opposite of what I always stood for. The very f*cking opposite!” Dworman added that he's going to "institute a new policy" for customers upset with future surprise controversial comedians like CK. “Essentially ‘swim at your own risk.’ We don’t know who may pop in that’s not on the lineup," said Dworman. "If someone does come in that you don’t want to see, you are free to leave, no questions asked and check completely on the house. Having said that, we don’t expect Louis back anytime soon.”
Posted Friday 8/31/18 at 10:58PM EDT
Comedy Cellar owner has a history of doubting that Louis CK deserved punishment
Comedy Cellar owner Noam Dworman has spent this week defending Louis CK's surprise performance Sunday night, saying “there can’t be a permanent life sentence on someone who does something wrong.” But, as Rachel Withers points out, "Dworman’s defense of his decision to allow CK back goes even further—it’s not just that it’s time to forgive CK for being a sexual harasser, but that CK isn’t a sexual harasser at all." Dworman has previously expressed doubt about CK's accusers, even though CK admitted to his actions. Dworman also has echoed CK's problematic statement acknowledging his behavior, in which he kept emphasizing that these women "admired me." Dworman has said, in CK's defense, "we tend to gravitate sexually to the people we admire." As Withers explains, "it's obvious Dworman doesn’t just think that CK has served his time, or that everyone deserves a second chance. He never believed CK deserved punishment at all. After all, this wasn’t a serious crime. And that’s deeply problematic coming from the owner of the Comedy Cellar—an important gatekeeper in the comedy world. Men can be shamed into hiding, or shamed out of letting Louis CK on their stage for 10 months. But too many still refuse to accept that there was anything to be ashamed of at all."
Posted Friday 8/31/18 at 2:43PM EDT
See photos from Louis CK's return to standup
The disgraced comedian made an unannounced appearance at Governor's comedy club on Long Island Sunday night before his surprise set at the Comedy Cellar later that night.
Posted Thursday 8/30/18 at 10:02PM EDT
Louis CK's career has been a long con -- and he staged his return in a monstrous, controlling way
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
"This wealthy, famous, connected man had so many chances — more than most people will ever get — and he f*cked them all up," says Maureen Ryan. CK's return to stand-up Sunday night "almost didn't surprise me," she says, "because that is Louis CK's thing: Having control. He made comedy specials and an entire TV series on his own and dropped them on his website. He had total mastery of those rollouts. Creative control is something a lot of artists long for. I don't have a problem with that. Here's what I do have a problem with: He controlled, in a monstrous way, the manner of his professional return — and then he used the word 'rape' in his set. For laughs. For a 'joke' about how rape whistles are 'unclean.'" Ryan adds that "a lot of the TV of the last couple decades has been designed to make us feel sorry for monsters and sociopaths.... One thing I and other critics have had to point out an infinite number of times is that these stories of predation, exploitation, assault and rape are usually told from the point of view of perpetrator — or maybe the (male) white knight whose motivation is saving or avenging a woman who is attacked. The survivors of the violence? Eh, who cares about them? So few do. So few. What a smart, cleverly arranged long con Louis CK's career has been. He skillfully built a world in which he — via Louie or his stand-up routines — 'excavated' faults and 'examined' the sh*ttiest parts of various attitudes, impulses and actions. But it was all really part of a long-term effort to get us to think, 'Hey, at least he's trying. He's giving it some effort.' He adopted a pose of brutal honesty so that he could seem like a good bro, a man who's working on being better than his worst moments."
- Louis CK reportedly made another surprise standup appearance Sunday night in Long Island before the Comedy Cellar
- "Fame — or infamy — can’t be contained by space and time," says Amanda Hess. "The audience for an intimate set is now the world. What (CK) says to the crowd he says to all of us. If we don’t like a television show, we can change the channel, but we can’t turn off our awareness of a media figure, not anymore. The thundering echo chamber built by mass and social media ensures that we’ll be conscious of his every move."
- Kathy Griffin tweeted of Louis CK: "The boys club closes ranks and protects its own"
- It's BS to assume nine months have exonerated him, reducing the #MeToo and Time's Up moment to a timeout
- What happened to the women Louis CK harassed?
- Another New York City comedy club would have Louis CK on: "I do believe in my heart of hearts, he is remorseful"
- The owners of one NYC comedy club are split on Louis CK's comeback: One is for it, the other is it's not the appropriate time
Posted Thursday 8/30/18 at 1:33AM EDT
Louis CK's return may be a preview of how other #MeToo offenders stage their comebacks
The #MeToo offenders could find their way back to the public eye by following Louis CK's lead, staging small comebacks that will generate repeated outrage that will dissipate over time, says Christina Cauterucci. "Here’s a forecast for future post-#MeToo returns based on what has transpired since Sunday," says Cauterucci. "Every time CK or one of his canceled peers reemerges, some people will get mad, but most people won’t, and there will be other, more pressing outrages to smother with energy, and before anyone fully grasps what’s going on, they’ll be back on tour, or rolling through the credits of our TV shows and movies, with an ugly entry on their Wikipedia pages but a growing bank account to soothe that indignity." She adds: "CK’s Sunday set suggests that it may not be a sympathetic Charlie Rose roundtable or glossy magazine spread or self-aware, highly produced streaming special that heralds these men’s reentry into public life. The more likely route to reputation renovation will simply be nonchalant reintroduction into the cultural bloodstream, little by little, like routine allergy shots that cause a milder reaction with each prick."
- Why do the bad men think we need them? "It seems that these men think the world needs them and their work"
- Louis CK should be banished until he demonstrates some measure of understanding of what he has done wrong
- There seems to be a sexist double standard for comebacks: Samantha Bee and Kathy Griffin had to beg for forgiveness, while Louis CK just had to sit out
- Louis CK specialized in a comedy of complicity: "When the charming f*ck-up does something genuinely unforgivable, where is there left for him to go?"
- Michael Che's argument that "any free person has a right to speak and make a living" belittles and delegitimizes the actual conversation around Louis CK
- Louis CK apologists should follow the lead of Michael Ian Black, who seemed to have learned something from sympathizing with the disgraced comedian
Posted Wednesday 8/29/18 at 5:36PM EDT
Two women recount Louis CK's surprise stand-up act: He told a shocking rape whistle joke
The two women spoke to Vulture anonymously, agreeing that CK received a warm reception on Sunday night, as reported by The New York Times. They also say his set included a joke about the phrase "clean as a whistle," which built up to a joke about how rape whistles are not clean. “When he said ‘rape whistle’ people were laughing, and I was just sitting there like oh my f*ck. This is so uncomfortable and so disgusting," said one of the women. "Everyone around me was laughing. That was just depressing.”
Posted Wednesday 8/29/18 at 5:36PM EDT
More New York City comedy clubs say they would welcome Louis CK back
Carolines on Broadway, Broadway Comedy Club, the Friars Club and Greenwich Village Comedy Club would all welcome the disgraced comedian back following his surprise appearance at the Comedy Cellar, according to TMZ. Louis Faranda, the talent exec behind Carolines on Broadway, said he considers CK like a son. "We all make bad mistakes in life and everyone deserves the right to be forgiven," he tells TMZ. "I totally understand the plight of the women he offended, (but) I also love Louie C.K. and CANNOT turn my back to him ever!!" ill Boggs, officer of the Friars Club, says "we were repulsed by his actions and there’s no question about that," but he adds: "We can't punish people for the rest of their lives; we can't assume they haven't learned. People can grow and change."